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This blog collects all of my research on Dr. Devra Bogdanovich as well as becoming a way to tell her story. You can check the What is this page for an overview of the project, or browse through the Bio and Career pages to learn about Dr. Bogdanovich's work and life. The main part of the blog will serve as a journal of my journey to document my research and to pay homage to a distinguished scientist.

Friday, September 27, 2013

Secret Videotaping of Hank and Devra Meeting and Hank's Follow-up

Devra and Hank Johnson met in New York City, August 24, 2013 as part of operation Cassandra. They had a number of conversations. In addition to the interview done for the Ingress Report 23 (see here for my review of that interview), it seems they had a number of other discussions. What does this mean?

There are a number of questions and the XM community has many thoughts on this revelation (see these topics for some of the conversations - Secret Meeting part 1, Secret Meeting part 2, Secret Meeting part 3  Hank/Devra Followup).

I am working on transcripts for the videos, if anyone knows of a good way to pull a transcript from a video, please contact me. To accurately document this series of events in Dr. Bogdanovich's life requires as many primary sources as possible.


Extended Interview with Ms. Moyer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN6ZQuy2rAg

Secret Taped Meeting

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EMt_4AaMAgY


translated Russian on Video (thanks to the Niantic Wiki (posted by balmoth) and translation from Arseny Krymov )

0:02 “Мы навели прицел” - “We've aimed the scope”. Mind you, “прицел” could mean camera's scope, but it is more commonly used for weapon scope. 
0:06 “Две камеры работают” - “Two cameras are working” 
0:17 “Взять вторую камеру” - “Take the second camera”



  • Hank has known Devra for 20 years
  • Devra has been doing controlled Xm experiments on subjects. Subjects (mostly students and homeless people) are given a disclosure form, they stay in a comfortable room for 24 hours, they are dosed with XM and are observed.

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ei6TNJarFGY


0:10 “Переходим на фронтальную” - “Moving to the frontal”. 
0:43 “Камера заблокирована” - “Camera blocked”









  •  She started with small does only, but because Ilya is impatient, some had larger doses. 
  • She exchanged this data with Oliver Lynton Wolfe before Cassandra. Devra believes he is the best XM researcher there is. They compared findings. 
  • Hank believes Wolfe is a megalomaniac headed down the same road as Jarvis.
  • Devra mentions XM can be a potentially positive force but there are problems.
  • Mentions Carrier Signal Hypothesis - a hypothesis that something somewhere is communicating
  • Hank states that he believes XM carries messages and that Carrie told him months ago that she can correlate symbols and glyphs to Xm modulations. 
  • Devra replies those symbols can be coordinated to messages.  
  • Hank says he has seen those symbols in a dozen civilizations beginning with his graduate work at Cahokia. then in Taloom (spelling), Afghanistan, Southern Texas. It is a language
  • Devra mentions different subjects react differently to XM exposure




0:32 “Зуммируем” - “We're zooming” 
0:43 “Перейди на фронтальную” - “Move to the frontal” 
0:54 “Можем зуммировать” - “We can zoom” 
1:12 “Отлично, Девра. Так держать” - “Excellent, Devra. Go on”





  • Devra mentions some of the high dose subjects did bad things to themselves and to others
  • Hank replies to that says just like Hollis (add this as speculation and include maybe Hollis was killed by the high dosed XM patient and it was touted as a suicide to coverup the killing.  Also - could Cognidyne mentioned by Hollis be linked to 13Magnus...
  • Hank says the XM response is based on the individual and Devra adds the XM signal changed as well.  She states whatever is out there sending the messages is a group, a "them". 
  • She mentions they may not be sending the messages to us but to each other. Using XM to communicate and that some of the messages are dangerous.
  • Hank believes XM could save us. Devra says it could destroy us. And that we have to turn it off. 

Hank's Followup with Devra




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