Devra in Tainan

I have been quiet for a bit.  Some of this was due to the fact Devra was not heard from and has been very quiet.  Well, it seems the silence is broken.  Devra will be at the #AegisNova Tainan event on May 28, 2016


And I echo Dr. Wright's question, posed here, of what this means and what she might be doing.  I hope all is well and will continue to follow this researcher.

From Ingress Link

Our informants tell us that +Devra Bogdanovich will be making her first public appearance at an Anomaly since Interitus at #AegisNova Tainan. Dr. Bogdanovich was responsible for the Portal Virus that increased Portal Decay duing Helios and was one of the many people associated with the Niantic Project who recursed after Abaddon.

Her interest in Aegis Nova may be connected to the XM Drought, which bears some similarities to the effects of her Portal Virus. Perhaps her journey to Tainan will reveal her motives and more information. Devra's dossier card will also be available in Supporter Kits at the Manila anomaly.

To register for Tainan: http://bit.ly/AegisNova-Tainan
To register for Manila: http://bit.ly/AegisNova-Manila

Darkness

This was posted today by Dr. Wright in the Essex chat - I do not know what it means  :/

There are times when I feel that I see through Devra's eyes.  Now, I see darkness.  Things she does not want to be doing. Things she should not be doing.

Edgar

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I'm here.  Yes. I know Ilya built the lab. I have no idea whether this was an attempted seduction or a scientific promise. Whatever the case, she is at the CDC now, if her post is to be believed. 

Edgar

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Where is Devra? And hoping all is well

Have not heard from Devra for some time now. With the conclusion of the 13Magnus event, focus has been more on Roland Jarvis, Susanna Moyer, Dr. Lynton-Wolfe, and ADA (Klue).

I am working on updating and gathering all information linked to Dr. Bogdanovich.  I will be updating the information in the Niantic Wiki first - http://niantic.schlarp.com/investigation:characters:devra_bogdanovich and then will tidy up the pages here.

I am also working on the ADA page - http://niantic.schlarp.com/investigation:characters:ada as it seems she may influence more and more the upcoming events.

Also the 13Magnus page - http://niantic.schlarp.com/investigation:characters:thirteen_magnus and Hank Johnson's page - http://niantic.schlarp.com/investigation:characters:henry_johnson may offer information.

Lastly, the page for Dr. Edgar Allan Wright - http://niantic.schlarp.com/investigation:characters:edgar_allan_wright

I will continue to collect and archive information linked to Dr. Bogdanovich as well as hoping she is alright. Her silence following the ultimatum from Ilya has me worried. Godspeed Dr. Bogdanovich, where ever you are right now.

Devra and 13Magnus

It seems much of Devra's early work is being filled in the last week.  I have collected many of the pieces at the Niantic Wiki page for 13 Magnus -  http://niantic.schlarp.com/investigation:characters:thirteen_magnus

It seems Hank and Devra met 20 years ago at Areicbo - leaving some of the items in the original Tycho posters for reinterpretation.  We also begin to see the connections between Hank, Dr. School, Dr. Wright and Devra.

We also see that Calvin Ezekiel has been chasing something for a very long time and using many of the same chess pieces.

Lastly, Devra may have been exposed to glyphs some 20 years ago (as well as Hank and any who saw those photos). What does this mean? Is this why in the Roland audio tapes he mentions it is like Devra knew what he was thinking????

Much more needs to be teased out.

Betrayal at a large price

Today X leaked an auction notice - https://plus.google.com/u/0/+NianticProject/posts/YcjV2ktb8PF

It seems Dr. Paul School is, not as we might have expected. Although there are some startling pieces here if they prove to be true. Devra went by another name? Does that mean her early work is published under other names?  She has known about 13Magnus all this time?  Is there perhaps a link to the reference Marie Celeste project that ties in?

In this recording (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/pac/IB/00/item/contact/Contact.mp3)  is Devra perhaps trying to "rub in" that she had found something. That what she was disciplined for was something more?  

 It seems Dr. Wright, I give you a nod. You have been trying to warn about the past events in Devra's history (such as here - https://plus.google.com/u/0/110289508116377658380/posts/VQHqawmUbuE) and in the following

a quote from a Jan. 5 g+ post - "Paul School is known to me.  He was involved in the SETI project decades ago.  He attempted to court Devra, but was, to the best of my knowledge, widely rejected. As she was his student (he was either an associate professor or T.A. at the time), this was highly unethical, but i do not believe any disciplinary action was taken.  I warned her against him.  Only having met him once, I assure you he was more a poseur than real scientist.  I believe he was mostly interested in extraterrestrial intelligence to get impressionable girls alone on dark nights."


It seems Dr. Bogdanovich has an unfortunate history of not always having the best of luck with men she interacts with in her professional and personal life...

More on Devra's past and Oliver Lynton-Wolfe who is he and where will he go

A post from Dr. Edgar Wright suggested to review what had been revealed regarding Devra and her past relationships.  I realize a better timeline can be generated and will be working on that over the upcoming holiday to try and update and improve the timeline (as that is one of the goals of this blog and research).

Post - " Like all whose lives have touched Devras, I am extremely concerned for her now. I am quite sure that nefarious forces are following up on a brief reference she made to having been at Arecibo and meeting Hank Johnson twenty years ago.  Stupid me, I had not put together that Johnson was the young Grad Student she met there who was studying certain ancient sites in the area.  Now, things are much clearer.  I now understand Dr. School's anger at the time.  Devra was young and confused.  If then grad student Johnson was doing what I think he was doing, I hope for her own sake that she is aware of the dangers that stalk her now. 

As for me, my research is showing a subtle 'change in things' coming. But I can say no more for now.

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Also - an interesting post from Dr Wright about secret language of myths (does anyone have any info on this topic, I have been searching but not finding anything).

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Yesterday a communication between Calvin and Lorazon and a profile on Oliver Lynton-Wolfe done by Hulong TransGlobal show how important yet dangerous OLW is to the XM race.

I wonder sometimes if the doctor is simply misunderstood or is completely unbalanced. Devra did share sata and research with him, so there is still potential for Oliver to end up in Visur's employ. But I wonder, does her really work for anyone?

Here is the g+ post. And the document is below.

Devra Is Going to New York City

August 24, 2013 is the last day of events in a series of anomalies called #cassandra.  One of the event cities is New York City, USA and it appears a number of Niantic/Ingress people are converging on the city. I will focus on collecting info regarding Devra and those related.  This memo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/pac%2FIB%2F09%2Fitem%2FMeeting.png) documents a conversation between Devra and Hank.  \

There are some notable pieces of information in this

1. Devra and Hank will be meeting in NYC on the 24th
2. Devra and Hank at some time in the past were together stuck together in a cabin in Jungefraujoch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungfraujoch)
3. There was a movie in the cabin and they will meet where ? and Peter roasted marshmallows to save Dana (this is a reference to the movie Ghostbusters)
4. Knows about the Jarvis Manifesto and mentions Hank might want to rethink his Enlightenment alliance.

Regarding the meeting place - here are a few resources regarding the locations.  If we take the building, then at least one of my stops in bring together information about Dr. Bogdanovich will be 55 Central Park West at 65th Street.

As an odd addendum - Dr. Edgar Allan Wright made an odd comment on this post - which is the Niantic post about the memo and has a lot of great comments about the document.  I've included Dr. Wright's comment as he references another Doctor - Dr. Ilyssa Selwyn which was a figure in the Ghostbuster's video game...

 

Ghostbusters Location info

• http://www.scoutingny.com/?p=1048
• http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/g/ghostbusters.html#.UhVSopIqaSo
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUV3iDNkqns
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp6K9VRQKbA

Thomas Greanias Chat July 25 and glyph links

Thomas Greanias often hosts Thursday chats on g+.  Tonight was a good chat about the glyphs and other topics.  I recommend taking a look - here are a few points I picked up (perhaps they will help those working to decipher the glyphs). I am not copying all of the posts here, so you should check out the full conversation  https://plus.google.com/u/0/102489350322422853902/posts/J8HToeeBRZg

A mention was made of somehow contacted Misty, this could be very, very interesting

• Thomas Greanias  -  10:03 PM Hank has been pretty busy lately, and it's taken me some time to track him down, with some help from Carrie Campbell.
• Thomas Greanias -  10:04 PM Hank and I had spent some good time together with Conrad Yeats after the events in Africa, reconciling accounts and laying things down for The Alignment Ingress novella.
• Thomas Greanias - 10:08 PM So it seems Hank kept a key bit of intel from me and Conrad when we published The Alignment Ingress:  Hank actually saw a few Shaper glyphs beneath the Luizi Crater anomaly in the Congo.
• I asked about Carrie's whereabouts and Thomas answered. - Thomas Greanias - 10:05 PM  - +JoJo Stratton On her way to Operation Minotaur
• Edgar Allan Wright - 10:05 PM - I have heard rumors that she is drawing again
• Edgar Allan Wright - 10:06 PM - We need for the codebreakers to crack her journal.  But she is an idiot to look at the glyphs. She is not even paying attention to the advice she gave Hank Johnson.
• Thomas Greanias - +Edgar Allan Wright Yep.  And she got a few glyphs from Hank.
• Edgar Allan Wright - 10:10 PM - It seems that the Glyphs compose an entire language. If Lovecrafts theories are correct, there hundreds of Glyphs.
• Thomas Greanias - 10:10 PM - Hank swears he wasn't holding back intentionally, and that he "remembered" the glyphs only after his meeting with Devra at the end of Felicia's novella The Niantic Project.  That was when he admitted some concerns over Dark XM, which experienced in the Congo with Conrad Yeats.  After that meeting he began to have dreams and "saw" the glyphs he had forgotten.  When he could get a hold of neither Conrad to confirm if he had seen them, too, nor Serena Serghetti, who disappeared at the time for parts unknown, he turned to Carrie Campbell.
• JoJo Stratton10:12 PM - Wonder what triggered the memory?
• Thomas Greanias10:15 PM - +JoJo Stratton. Hank says it was talking to Devra.  My SUSPICION is that in simply VOCALIZING what happened with Dark XM that something triggered inside Hank's head.  Almost like speaking the language of Mordor and the ring in Lord of the Rings.
• Daniel Beaudoin - 10:09 PM - Do you know which glyphs he saw??
• Thomas Greanias - 10:12 PM - +Daniel Beaudoin Hank drew the glyphs for Carrie, who then told him about the Howard-Lovecraft letters to look for more
• Edgar Allan Wright10:14 PM - My suspicion is that Hank probably saw Carrie working on Glyph Theory (she is a semioticist) and then saw something in Congo or Meroe that he thought Carrie would be interested in.
• Edgar Allan Wright10:14 PM - What is of greatest interest to me is the nature of the collaboration between Carrie Campbell and Enoch Dalby.
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• Lukas Lentz 10:13 PM - Is hank having +Hubert Farlowe type mind blanks?
•  Thomas Greanias 10:16 PM - +Lukas Lentz He doesn't see them as mind blanks, because he doesn't know there are blanks until he "recalls" those pieces later.  If that makes sense to you.
• Edgar Allan Wright10:16 PM - Has it not occurred to anybody that memory triggers are a key to shaping?
• Thomas Greanias10:18 PM - +Edgar Allan Wright Yep.  And interesting article today about "inception" science with mice:  scientists are implanting false memories and can't wait to try it on people....
•  JoJo Stratton10:16 PM - I am interested in how the first pieces came to Misty and which specific ones she saw.  As to Carrie and Dalby, Sound is part of language.... Mike W. has very good theories on that
• Thomas Greanias10:19 PM - +JoJo Stratton Hank gave misty the first pieces---drawings he showed Carrie from what he saw beneath the Luizi Crater—and they are not public yet.
• Thomas Greanias10:20 PM - +Daniel Clague And there's a Mother Culture even further back than all of them.  First Time.  Zep Tepi.  
• Edgar Allan Wright10:20 PM - It is my suspicion that Mr. Greanias let slip something he shouldn't. Though it is not a surprise that an Anomalie would happen in the place that Carrie is drawn to. Begs an interesting question. Do Anomalies draw sensitives or do sensitives draw anomalies.
• Thomas Greanias10:22 PM - +Edgar Allan Wright Brilliant, actually.  Conrad Yeats maintains the former, as does Hank, I believe, but Serena Serghetti the linguist believes the latter, as does her colleague Carrie Campbell, I believe.  That's because there is power in language.  And the writing of it, as well as the speaking of it, creates an effect.
• Thomas Greanias10:26 PM - By the way, I'll begin posting Hank's field journal entries in a few days, which will answer a lot of question.  Interestingly, getting back to Wright's question:  writing this down helped ME nail Hank on some issues and clarify his own recollections, too.
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• Edgar Allan Wright10:21 PM - Somebody should make an effort to contact Misty...  I only hope that we will not need a medium to do so.
• Daniel Clague10:26 PM - Misty may be our only protection from hostile shaper influence until we get these glyphs decoded. So, I think finding her should become a priority
• Thomas Greanias10:27 PM - +Daniel Clague I haven't seen her since Magic Castle.  Hank saw her beforehand, but not since.  I've heard she's performing again.  The big question is what kind of relationship she has going on with ADA.
• Edgar Allan Wright10:28 PM - It would be interesting to try and summon Misty in a Hang-Out seance.
• Edgar Allan Wright10:32 PM - Perhaps +Thomas Greanias would be kind enough to ask +Hank Johnson if he can find out what happened to Misty.
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• Joshua Hardee10:27 PM - All language is a virus. We just don't realize it because it has achieved perfect symbiosis with it's host. These glyphs are merely a new strain of contagion, infecting us all. It will be interesting to see who achieves symbiosis with it, and who does not.
• Thomas Greanias10:30 PM - +Joshua Hardee Probably one of the more insightful comments I've seen in awhile.
• Edgar Allan Wright10:31 PM - +Joshua Hardee excellent observation. 
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• Jose Ramirez10:33 PM - +Thomas Greanias Did you notice the way the glyphs were written over a backdrop of outer space and stacked a certain way on the Ingress Report? Any further meaning we can gain from this
• Thomas Greanias10:35 PM - +Jose Ramirez Good question. Intriguing to consider if there's a completely different or parallel form of syntax—and meaning— we haven't considered.
• Thomas Greanias10:43 PM - +Mustafa Said Conrad Yeats and Serena Serghetti are in the States completely focused on a find they believe link the U.S. back to ancient Rome, Egypt, Atlantis, Pillars of Creation and first time. 
  
  (OK, I'm lying.  TODAY she is with the Pope for World Youth Day in Brazil.  But then back to the States.)
  
  All I can say in terms of linkage what's going on with the glyphs is their discovery of a "solar symbol."  I will be circling back to them and The Alignment Federal City novel  after Hank and I get out The Shaper Symbol-Glyph-Whatever novella in the weeks ahead. 
  
  Serena thinks my collaboration with Hank and Carrie may end up helping her and Conrad.
• flint dille10:44 PM - +JoJo Stratton what is Zep Tipi?
• Thomas Greanias10:45 PM - +flint dille "First Time."  Ancient Egyptian.  The time before Genesis. 
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• Thomas Greanias10:38 PM - I'm curious to know what any of you may have lifted out of the Lovecraft-Howard letters.  Tapping a sentence or two out here in this thread might magically make some glyphs appear....
• Jose Ramirez10:40 PM1 - +Thomas Greanias I noticed that a few glyphs that Lovecraft jotted out were similar to recently discovered glyphs, just a different script.
• Thomas Greanias10:44 PM - +Jose Ramirez Me, too.  That's why I'm asking to see if you and anybody else had similar impressions.
• Kelly Kolton10:43 PM - +Thomas Greanias Howard wrote to Lovecraft: "My sensations while reading this story are rather difficult to describe. The effect of reality was remarkable. Some of the speculations were over my head, at the first reading--not from any lack of clarity, but simply because of their cosmic depth."
• Thomas Greanias10:47 PM - +Kelly Kolton Which is why the later "recollections" of Hank, Lovecraft, Howard, etc. seem all the more fascinating.  Kind of lack aftershocks.
• JoJo Stratton10:47 PM - Of note in the one letter - certain men visited HPL - who were these men? And early NIA??? :)
• Thomas Greanias10:49 PM - +JoJo Stratton Yes.  People really did visit him.  And he didn't know who they were.  My research suggests that the search for XM isn't all that new.  Tesla and Edison were allegedly interested in XM, too, according to one anonymous researcher.
• Jeff Carter10:48 PM - That miskatonic reference along with WEIRD was a fruitless chase for me too. Miskatonic is a fictional place created by HPL. but they both wrote stories for Weird Tales magazine. The entire Weird Tales collection can be found on a Miskatonic University website
• Thomas Greanias10:51 PM - +Jeff Carter Weird Tales could have been an anthology of shaper symbols for all we know
• Thomas Greanias10:52 PM - +Jose Ramirez Yes, simply looking at the glyphs registers through the optical cord to the cerebral cortex and---flash!--into your neurology.
• flint dille10:53 PM - Check out Lovecraft's 'The Nameless City.'  It hooks into Hank and Conrad's story.  Most stuff about Glyphs is written in 'code' like the Alchemists did.
• Thomas Greanias10:54 PM -  +flint dille Exactly.  Hank Johnson found the real places after Cross Plains, and there he found the glyphs he took to Carrie Campbell.  That is the gist of the novella we are putting together—what REALLY happened—and the problems Hank and I are facing:  Those glyphs did a number on him, and he is STILL recalling new ones after Cross Plains, much like he did back beneath the Luizi Crater with Conrad Yeats. 
• flint dille10:55 PM - While we're on the Lovecraft thread. I'm not sure there's anything there, but it seems that Lovecraft ghost wrote some Harry Houdini adventures.  The Seance Room in the Magic Castle where the Misty Event and glyph exchange took place holds many of Houdini's artifacts.
• Thomas Greanias10:55 PM - And with that we are going to wrap up tonight, agents.  You've given me even deeper motivation to grill Hank as we go over his journal entries to see what he may have "forgotten."  Appreciate your thoughts and supports, as this process of writing, much like The Alignment Ingress, leaves me feeling shaped myself.  A weird tale.
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Time Zero Event - how will this affect Devra

Tomorrow (or today depending on time zone) is the Greenwich Park Anomaly G+ Event: (#timezero) to be held in London and surrounding areas. https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cbv6kah3kj8uk8n1d0g554453e8

It seems from a leaked Visur document (https://plus.google.com/u/0/+NianticProject/posts/B8Vnu2rCy8U) that an important piece will be the possible exchange of information related to gylphs/symbols that have been talked about since the Magic Castle event and especially of late as Carrie Campbell and Hank Johnson chase after potential ancient links to these symbols.  From the fact the leaked document is from Visur, it appears Devra, or at least Visur, is interested in these symbols.

Dr. Wright made some odd comments about Devra and these symbols in a recent chat hosted by Thomas Greanias - https://plus.google.com/u/0/102489350322422853902/posts/AqmzLA1dC6H - and it is something to note if it is just ramblings by a potentially jealous past suitor, or if they are adequate assessments of Devra's character... I hope to find out more after this event.

Lastly, there is a book club set up to discuss topics in the Niantic books, "The Alignment: INgress" and the book detailing Devra's flight from Niantic and her first steps to setting up her own research facility - "The Niantic Project: Ingress" - https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/116713566174725132772 Join us to discuss and examine the concepts in these books and how they impact the larger universe.

Connections

An indirect connection to Devra in a message from Hank. It references his meeting with her described in Felicia's novel "The Niantic Project: Ingress". Hank trusts Devra, just not who she is dealing with. Somehow I feel Devra is in the same place. Has she traded one master for another?  It is amazing when your heart is devoted to a passion, what you will go through to follow that. Scientists and artists often share that trait. Perhaps that is why XM influences both groups as it does.

That said - if you have any ideas about the Cross Plains event, share. I have been doing some research on the event as has Dr. Edgar Allen Wright (you can see his thoughts in his feed and in replies to others).

Lastly, I am setting up a Google Community to talk about and discuss the Ingress books as well as any related books and materials. I am hoping to get it really going tomorrow - I called it Unofficial Ingress Book Club.  I need a image for the group, if anyone has skills, I wanted to make sure it was not a copyrighted image or such.

Alright, off to look for connections.

ADA wants in

Well it seems IQ Tech has been busy and recorded a chat between Devra and ADA - said chat raises lots and lots of questions - at least for me. I'll copy a few I have, there are some great discussions going on through g+

It does make me wonder more about ADA, I really would love to know what makes her tick, what she is feeling and thinking and of course, plotting and playing....

Comment 1

"Even if you go naked..."  you know ADA I do like your developing sense of humor :) 

as to timing of this convo, well ADA only mentions Christie, and we know Devra had contacted others, so perhaps this communication came between those?  Although, do we know who the dangerous Ilya is (or is this a piece the upcoming novel may fill in)?  And hmmm it seems a certain person is not in good graces...

what exactly did you do +Edgar Allan Wright 

and lastly... why does ADA want in so "badly"...

As to IQTech +Andrew Bone they are high on my list of want to know more. I am slowly working on that wiki page of organizations as a way to help me review everything on certain topics, IQTech one of them  (with that, was IQTech link to Hank the first time they were mentioned on the Investigation board???)

If they have not already been asked, maybe at the next +Thomas Greanias  Q&A IQTech could be brought up and see if additional info is known....

Comment 2

I am not sure ADA wants to work for or with Devra, she wants "in" this could mean more to be considered a confidant of Devra's, to be trusted, to perhaps have a person to actually talk to...

Timing I am still curious about as well, We know Devra had contacted others - but ADA does not mention them here, could be a timing clue or just how the conversation flowed.

I do not recall an Ilya either... BUT we have had a few last names with no first names (I believe 855 had mentioned a Milan person who he suspected she was going to see, perhaps that is Ilya, which is she is going to visit this person, why would ADA label them as dangerous???  Very very excited about the upcoming novel now....

I know over the last few months, +Hubert Farlowe periodically checks in and sometimes hints that things happened, but he and others (like the nice Doctor Lady ;)  are ok.... which I am holding you to +Hubert Farlowe ;)

and yes +Lukas Lentz I am beginning to think there is something more... and have you noticed we have not heard from him in a bit

(PS - Dr. Wright might be Paul, but she seemed so excited to call Paul and share the dialtone finding, which ADA cut right off, but would she have gone from being to enthusiastic to the obvious distaste, perhaps disgust, possibly indicated in that chat (I wish i could have heard her voice to see if it was dripping with loathing ;)

Comment 3

ADA goes on about how she can monitor everything and so on, well, does ADA know she is being recorded by IQ Tech? And that answer of course begs two very important follow up questions

1. If yes, why does she allow the recording and then chats to leak out (does she consider IQ Tech inconsequential, which can be a person's undoing, or does she want the chats leaked and finds IQ is as convenient way as any)

2. If no, um maybe we should be worried not just about ADA but about IQ Tech.... (or if ADA is going to be an issue, maybe IQ Tech will be a secret weapon, savior)

Why do I get the feeling there are backdoors to people's backdoors to people's backdoors in this digital world.....

It's an ill wind that blows nobody good

There are whispers, uneasiness, if it were a weather storm we would say the pressure is dropping... there are some saying that more battles are coming, including one that may influence Devra.

So what are the beating drums saying?

1. Rumors place Devra perhaps in the EU or even a bit further North/East into Russia (https://plus.google.com/110289508116377658380/posts/LKuwCyZgjGc and https://plus.google.com/110289508116377658380/posts/gWcrdG4yy7G comments by Edgar Allen Wright, Joe Philley and Hubert Farlowe)
2. More light is shed on why Hubert Farlowe has voiced support for "the good doc" (Devra). Apparently he was the second person at the Zurich hit (https://plus.google.com/110289508116377658380/posts/gWcrdG4yy7G)
3. Devra may have run into some trouble (comment by Hubert Farlowe - https://plus.google.com/110289508116377658380/posts/gWcrdG4yy7G)
4. Dr. Edgar Allen Wright has long claimed to know Devra through past work and study. This recent post by Dr. Wright brings up the connection Devra may have had to Edgar - but it does seem a bit odd - copied below in entirety (https://plus.google.com/110289508116377658380/posts/7pcSFT4k584)

Edgar Allan Wright originally shared this post:

I'm thinking that, though we don't get explicit, had a relationship with Dr. Wright while she was a student. It cost him his job and some discipline.  As he became more and more outcast (both for his fanaticism, she tried to separate).  Now he's kind of a stalker, but she realizes that he was kind of right.  And, well, maybe she feels bad about what happened to him.  She may need his help at some point, and should probably mention him in the story.  Gives him cred on Google+.

And lastly, a "think tank" group I am in (waves at my fellow WIN thinkers and speculators), started wondering if another battle for a portal and thus a person might be coming soon, this time linked to Devra.  I made a comment, "And..... I have a thought - what if in a battle for Devra... we left the portal NEUTRAL????  what happens if the portal is neutral????"

A comment was made in reply by a Niantic source that, "I would love that then she would have made her own choice..but what if its in a farm and it was a tie ?"

And that is a question.......  can you change the direction the wind blows?