Secret Videotaping of Hank and Devra Meeting and Hank's Follow-up

Devra and Hank Johnson met in New York City, August 24, 2013 as part of operation Cassandra. They had a number of conversations. In addition to the interview done for the Ingress Report 23 (see here for my review of that interview), it seems they had a number of other discussions. What does this mean?

There are a number of questions and the XM community has many thoughts on this revelation (see these topics for some of the conversations - Secret Meeting part 1, Secret Meeting part 2, Secret Meeting part 3  Hank/Devra Followup).

I am working on transcripts for the videos, if anyone knows of a good way to pull a transcript from a video, please contact me. To accurately document this series of events in Dr. Bogdanovich's life requires as many primary sources as possible.


Extended Interview with Ms. Moyer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN6ZQuy2rAg

Secret Taped Meeting

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EMt_4AaMAgY

translated Russian on Video (thanks to the Niantic Wiki (posted by balmoth) and translation from Arseny Krymov )

0:02 “Мы навели прицел” - “We've aimed the scope”. Mind you, “прицел” could mean camera's scope, but it is more commonly used for weapon scope. 
0:06 “Две камеры работают” - “Two cameras are working” 
0:17 “Взять вторую камеру” - “Take the second camera”

• Hank has known Devra for 20 years
• Devra has been doing controlled Xm experiments on subjects. Subjects (mostly students and homeless people) are given a disclosure form, they stay in a comfortable room for 24 hours, they are dosed with XM and are observed.

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ei6TNJarFGY

0:10 “Переходим на фронтальную” - “Moving to the frontal”. 
0:43 “Камера заблокирована” - “Camera blocked”

•  She started with small does only, but because Ilya is impatient, some had larger doses. 
• She exchanged this data with Oliver Lynton Wolfe before Cassandra. Devra believes he is the best XM researcher there is. They compared findings. 
• Hank believes Wolfe is a megalomaniac headed down the same road as Jarvis.
• Devra mentions XM can be a potentially positive force but there are problems.
• Mentions Carrier Signal Hypothesis - a hypothesis that something somewhere is communicating
• Hank states that he believes XM carries messages and that Carrie told him months ago that she can correlate symbols and glyphs to Xm modulations. 
• Devra replies those symbols can be coordinated to messages.  
• Hank says he has seen those symbols in a dozen civilizations beginning with his graduate work at Cahokia. then in Taloom (spelling), Afghanistan, Southern Texas. It is a language
• Devra mentions different subjects react differently to XM exposure

Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ta5NfG6i3hg

0:32 “Зуммируем” - “We're zooming” 
0:43 “Перейди на фронтальную” - “Move to the frontal” 
0:54 “Можем зуммировать” - “We can zoom” 
1:12 “Отлично, Девра. Так держать” - “Excellent, Devra. Go on”

• Devra mentions some of the high dose subjects did bad things to themselves and to others
• Hank replies to that says just like Hollis (add this as speculation and include maybe Hollis was killed by the high dosed XM patient and it was touted as a suicide to coverup the killing.  Also - could Cognidyne mentioned by Hollis be linked to 13Magnus...
• Hank says the XM response is based on the individual and Devra adds the XM signal changed as well.  She states whatever is out there sending the messages is a group, a "them". 
• She mentions they may not be sending the messages to us but to each other. Using XM to communicate and that some of the messages are dangerous.
• Hank believes XM could save us. Devra says it could destroy us. And that we have to turn it off. 

Hank's Followup with Devra

The Carrie Campbell Ripple

It seems that Dr. Carrie Campbell has been confirmed as the body in the Chicago morgue.  Well wishes from all corners have poured in as well as fierce debate on the circumstances of her death. There is much mention of a sacrifice and how that will affect future events. Only time will tell, and perhaps not even that.

Thank you Dr. Campbell for what you did share, may you be able to find peace, in what ever shape, form, plane or existence that might be.

INgress Report 24 Interrupted - What do the messages mean

Two items have dropped within the last 24 hours that may signal an upcoming shift. The first is a poster from Tycho (see here and the wiki entry here and map wiki image here) and the second is the 24 episode of the Ingress Report posted today has been hijacked, or something (see here and the wiki entry).  Devra is shown in the hijacked report and the writing in the frame may be linked to her or a residue... something is coming, what is it.

PS - I do feel sorry for Dr. Lynton-Wolfe

Interview with Devra and Hank by the Ingress Report

Dr. Bogdanovich and Hank Johnson were interviewed by Susanna Moyer for the Ingress Report Episode 23 (starts around 5:45 in the full episode). There is a mention of a full interview with them being available at the Ingress YouTube channel. I have not seen that, but will post links once I find them.

There are a few items of note in this interview - a couple big ones are what is Jarvis and what has Devra seen regarding  glyphs that she keeps referring to?

1. Hank Johnson, "I believe Exotic Matter affects everyone differently. It can have positive effects on many individuals. It can also weaken the minds of some and bring out dangerous and deep rooted flaws."

2. Devra Bogdanovich, "What lives on, I can not fully explain. He seems to have been mirrored in the XM fabric... the thing that attempted to seduce you, to shape you..." - Devra uses the term shaping in a potential negative connotation.

3.  Hank, "He is pure evil, but that does not mean all XM is bad."

4. Susanna asks about glyphs.  Hank, "Glyphs are neither good nor evil. They are the embodiment of a communication with mankind. A dialogue that has been going on for thousands of years. A dialogue between our species and one that has an awful lot to teach us."

5. Susanna, "So glyphs are words?"  Hank, "Glyphs are more than words. They are like a programming language for our minds."  Devra, "And programs can be bad. I've seen what glyphs can do. They can be self destruct codes for people."

6. Susanna asks Hank if glyphs are dangerous.  Hank, "Glyphs have created entire civilizations and yes, glyphs have also destroyed entire civilizations.

7. Susanna, "You're saying the glyphs out there have some self destruct code for civilization (Devra nods her head yes). They can even as we speak be driving the modern world to extinction."  Hank, "Not all XM is bad; not all glyphs are bad. (Devra makes a noise but does not interject). If we work hard, we can understand what they are communicating to us, (Devra again makes protest noises). Glyphs, the knowledge they contain can lead us to a better future (Devra cuts in and the video begins to have static interference).

8. "I've witness the results (regarding XM). I don't know if we can close this Pandora's Box, but we have to try."  then the video cuts out

Cassandra wrap-up and Devra visits NYC and Meets Hank

Dr. Devra Bogdanovich was in New York City yesterday to meet with Hank Johnson as well as observing the New York portion of the Cassandra Anomaly.

It seems they met before the actual event (potentially near the area referenced in this document)

Both Hank and Devra attended the gathering of agents. Devra stayed mainly with resistance agents and was handing out cards and other support to them as Hank watched before going over to speak to enlightened and also handed out support. Susanna Moyer was also there, working to capture the event and I believe she interviewed Dr. Bogdanovich.

During the event, Devra was seen at some of the portals, again giving aid to resistance (and may have had an XM encounter as reports/rumors are coming in that at one of the portals she may have been overwhelmed and fainted/was affected).

There is also another portal/statue where both Hank and Devra crossed paths, the statue seeming to draw Hank.

With the close of the Cassandra event, we have the enlightened taking the event, but also the meeting of resistance and enlightened and in the cryptic words of Hank "We [sic Devra] may be seeing more eye to eye in the future". 

As more about Dr. Bogdanovich’s studies and work and related topics emerges, I’ll update. 

Cassandra Audio Files and More on the NYC Cassandra Event

It seems a set of audio files are dropping from portals - here are a couple of links to them - it is unclear what these are or what they mean...  Trying to see if Devra is mentioned in any of them - will update

Wiki with files and hidden image info (currently in progress) - http://niantic.schlarp.com/investigation:videos:cassandrasignal?&#cassandra_signal

Playlist -  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLitFwt3woeSloQMlVJ3UhVvF94cZ4YIkY

Another wiki with the files listed - http://www.ingresswiki.at/wiki/operation_cassandra#cassandra_signal


Along with these, information on the clusters and locations for #cassandra NYC have been released.  I'll be trying to cover as much ground as possible and document.  - https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Ingress/posts/hMAmZqv7efG

Devra Is Going to New York City

August 24, 2013 is the last day of events in a series of anomalies called #cassandra.  One of the event cities is New York City, USA and it appears a number of Niantic/Ingress people are converging on the city. I will focus on collecting info regarding Devra and those related.  This memo (http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/pac%2FIB%2F09%2Fitem%2FMeeting.png) documents a conversation between Devra and Hank.  \

There are some notable pieces of information in this

1. Devra and Hank will be meeting in NYC on the 24th
2. Devra and Hank at some time in the past were together stuck together in a cabin in Jungefraujoch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungfraujoch)
3. There was a movie in the cabin and they will meet where ? and Peter roasted marshmallows to save Dana (this is a reference to the movie Ghostbusters)
4. Knows about the Jarvis Manifesto and mentions Hank might want to rethink his Enlightenment alliance.

Regarding the meeting place - here are a few resources regarding the locations.  If we take the building, then at least one of my stops in bring together information about Dr. Bogdanovich will be 55 Central Park West at 65th Street.

As an odd addendum - Dr. Edgar Allan Wright made an odd comment on this post - which is the Niantic post about the memo and has a lot of great comments about the document.  I've included Dr. Wright's comment as he references another Doctor - Dr. Ilyssa Selwyn which was a figure in the Ghostbuster's video game...

 

Ghostbusters Location info

• http://www.scoutingny.com/?p=1048
• http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/g/ghostbusters.html#.UhVSopIqaSo
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUV3iDNkqns
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp6K9VRQKbA

Devra's Alignment

A lot has been happening in the last few weeks, many items linked directly or indirectly to Devra.  I have been away, but I am back and will start to post the information

At this point no official declaration seems to have been made by Devra, but there has been a number of references and points to what Devra's faction alignment might be.  Here are a few items associated with that subject.

Ingress Report 21 Image

As documented in the Niantic Wiki (thanks Hugo and wiki makers) - an image of Devra was used in the Ingress report that has one eye colored blue and one green, although there are blue and green auras around both her and Hank Johnson (which it seems they will be meeting on the 24th - I will have a detailed research report on that tomorrow).

P.A. Chapeau G+ Question

P.A. posted on August 17th information about a potential meeting occurring as part of the #cassandra series of events. Part of his post included this question: "Today, I want to talk about Hank and Devra meeting in New York. What do you think they are up to? Is this some kind of cross-faction peace talks? A conspiracy against Jarvis? Or against the NIA and Phillips? Does Devra even align herself with any particular faction? Her ideology has always been difficult to pin down,"

The comments were very interesting; many believe Devra aligns with resistance, while others point out she is aligned with Visur, or is a neutral alignment.

Devra's Open Letter to the XM Community

Devra released a letter through her G+ profile on July 14 that described her thoughts regarding XM and research.

Overview of Mods and the Three Corporations

In this document, there is a mention of Visur releasing a mod that Devra had wanted to wait and study the effects further, but understood the need to use it to counter other efforts.

And of course the story by Felicia Hajra-Lee "The Niantic Project: Ingress".

There are other sources, but, for now, there is no specific answer, but, then as we have seen, there is never a final answer, things can always change.

Visur courts Yuri and Calvin and Lynton-Wolfe Conduct more tests

Two documents were shared via the Hulong g+ feed (not sure they have popped up elsewhere yet, curious).

The first is a conversation between Calvin and Lynton-Wolfe about additional portals and unauthorized tests.  The second is a conversation between Ilya and Dr. Schubert (it is in German, translation below, thank you Hugo Neves )

From the Ilya/Scubert conversation:

ELECTRONIC INTELLIGENCE REPORT Intercept
Fl I LE D: 020th .51 L211.14l.J15.610.115.111.200.125.01: 5000055 510.701.181.11 S
Source: Withheld
Surveillance Target: Technologies, draw attention
Present: Pevtsov, llya {CEO)
Dr. Schubert, Martin {former Niantic Researcher)
E-Int Form: Telephone Call Intercept August 03 2013 09:24 UTC

# # BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
IL YA: Did you have an occasion to look at the offer?
SCHUBERT: Devra has always been a convincing woman.
ILYA: I need an answer soon.
SCHUBERT: Why the rush?
ILYA: We have heard that thousands IQTech vodafone portals in and around
our research sites have arise.
SCHUBERT: Are you worried that they will take away your XM sources?
ILYA: Maybe, but what I know is that we must convince them to
give us access to the portals. I got the resources here in
a laboratory and I need some more help.
SCHUBERT: I'll come back to you soon.
IL YA: I'll double my offer.
SCHUBERT: I see. Give me 24 hours.
ILYA: Not a minute more.
# # END TRANSCRIPT
Hulong
TRANSGLOBAL INDUSTRIES, COR.P.

Hank Johnson Dispatches and a brief Hello from Hubert

The world is on fire with developments relating to the last Anomaly #minotaur and the upcoming series of events called #Cassandra

XM ANOMALY LINKS
AUG 11: SYDNEY http://goo.gl/ujBcwP 
AUG 13: MILAN http://goo.gl/Y6iOWP
AUG 15: TOKYO http://goo.gl/H3JDLL 
AUG 17: DUSSELDORF http://goo.gl/DznAsx 
AUG 17: WASHINGTON, DC http://goo.gl/HiBk2W 
AUG 17: BOSTON http://goo.gl/xpftg9 
AUG 18: MANILA http://goo.gl/wgB7gK 
AUG 20: PARIS http://goo.gl/LyaFOM 
AUG 21: SAO PAULO http://goo.gl/sYF6Ua 
AUG 22: HONG KONG http://goo.gl/oBs53q 
AUG 24: COLOGNE http://goo.gl/lMN6bj 
AUG 24: NEW YORK http://goo.gl/2uChqm 
AUG 24: CHICAGO http://goo.gl/vcNKmi 

The results of Minotaur included the release of papers by Stein Lightman with glyph translation (see the Ingress Report here). So far those papers have not been released publicly as resistance holds them, but we are hoping to see them soon.  The Ingress report also had some interesting subtext added in including glyphs and "Do not trust her" - who put those there and why?

With everything else Hank Johnson released (with help from  Thomas Greanias)  on his g+ account a Dispatch that describes so of his recent events.  Devra is mentioned in the first Dispatch: 

In short strokes, Conrad and I split up after the Congo. I’m sure we’ll run into each other again. We always do. I was shaking off the Dark XM effects on an island off the grid when I got an urgent invite to Rotterdam.  It was from Devra. I don’t know a lot of guys who would pass up that invite, and I’m no exception. Frankly, I also wanted to see Visur’s operation and maybe meet Ilya, but not everything works the way you want it to.

Anyway, I don’t know how +Felicia Hajra-Lee got her info, but she got it right. Her description in The Niantic Project: Ingress pretty much got how the meeting went down. Looking back, I’m glad I didn’t get any closer to +Hubert Farlowe. Might have been a bad reaction; Dark XM and regular XM add up to a quantum Cthulhu.

So the meeting between Hank and Devra did occur about as described in the book  - AND there is confirmation about people being XM carriers and now Hank may be one type and Hubert another (quantum Cthulhu... just what did that mean-?   And the quote at the end of his dispatch, is that a poetic way to say the 1st and 2nd law of thermodynamics and how energy just changes form and never goes "away".

Last but not least - last night was the Thomas Greanias chat Lots there but the Devra piece came through a short visit by Huber Farlowe as he dropped in to say hi. 

He mentioned this (which references this document)

Hubert Farlowe

Yesterday 10:39 PM

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+David Timothy really busy times but I did want to say, Trust Devra and Visur.  Phillips is dangerous,and If the Senator is who I think it is we have trouble  but I don't want to name names.

then Travis asked Hubert why trust him and I asked about the Senator - this was his reply

Hubert Farlowe

Yesterday 10:44 PM

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+Trampis Spears right now trying to shut down XM research is like playing whac a mole with all these contractors and +JoJo Stratton no names right now until I k now we're safe.

And as to who is the "we're"

Hubert Farlowe

Yesterday 10:50 PM

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+JoJo Stratton yes I have her back and I'm helping keep her team of contractors safe for now.

Hubert Farlowe

Yesterday 10:55 PM

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+JoJo Stratton I'm with the Doc where she goes I go.She trusts these people I trust her.

So, Devra is safe, it seems, for now and working on her XM research.  There is more in the chat, I'll process some of it in a separate entry later (a lot of potential about the glyphs).